[He already feels terrible and this cements the fact he's made a massive mis-step, and Fern is the one who has paid for it. He heaves out a sigh pinching the bridge of his nose, damnit.]

He saw the... demon a while back. When he and Fern got into a fight. He told me about it and I've been trying to figure out what it was about since then. It trapped Ruby in the Great Sleep, and Glitch caught on pretty fast too. We were trying to gather information- that's why Jon came to you. Ruby mentioned you'd experienced something similar, too.

[When will he learn not to meddle? Jesus.]

We... we were trying to help him. We thought it was hurting him.